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ICT Venom Model Explained: The 8:00–9:30 AM Box and the Open Sweep

Venom is a pre-open box plus a sweep at the 09:30 open. I explain the idea, convert the times to IST and say plainly where my sources are thin.

ICT Venom Model Explained: The 8:00–9:30 AM Box and the Open Sweep (featured illustration)

Quick answer

The ICT Venom Model, as community sources describe it, marks a box from 08:00 to 09:30 New York time, waits for price to sweep one side of the box around the 09:30 US equity open, then looks for a reversal back through the box. I could not find a primary source for the rules, only community descriptions, so I treat the details as unverified and test them myself.

Key takeaways

  • Venom is a box from 08:00 to 09:30 New York time plus a sweep at the open.
  • I found only community sources, no primary one, so the rules are unverified.
  • It is a time-based model, so time-zone conversion matters.
  • Only a written, testable version is worth journaling.

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What is the ICT Venom Model?

I should be upfront: Venom is the model in my ICT research notes where I have the least solid footing. I could not find a primary source. What I found is a handful of community write-ups, and they describe a simple, time-based idea: a pre-open box and a sweep at the open.

How is the box drawn?

Chart of the ICT Venom model with a box from 08:00 to 09:30 New York time, a sweep of the box high at the open and a reversal back through the box
The Venom box and the sweep at the open (invented prices).
  1. Mark the high and low between 08:00 and 09:30 New York time.
  2. Wait for the 09:30 open and see whether price sweeps one edge of the box.
  3. If it sweeps and then returns through the box, look at that as the reversal.

It resembles the Judas Swing, but anchored to a defined box and the cash-equity open instead of the midnight open.

What are the times in IST?

Venom times (US daylight time, EDT)
Item New York IST
Box start 08:00 17:30
Box end / open 09:30 19:00

In US winter time (EST), add one hour to the IST column. Check the clock-change dates every year.

What would my checklist look like?

Checklist for the Venom model covering the box, the sweep, the reversal and the stop and target
The checklist I would write before testing.

Because the rules are unverified, I would write my own and keep them fixed: how the box edges are defined (wicks or bodies), what counts as a sweep (a tick or a close), what confirms the reversal, where the stop goes, and which target. Then I would log every day, including days with no sweep.

How does it relate to other models?

What are the weak points?

  • Thin sourcing: rules differ between community posts.
  • The open is volatile: spreads widen and fast moves can stop you out before any reversal.
  • Time-zone errors: one wrong clock-change assumption shifts every trade.
  • Small sample: one setup a day builds evidence slowly. See the journal guide.

Reminder: I make no claim or guarantee of profit or success from anything described here. Examples are invented or illustrative and real results will differ. If you choose to trade, you are responsible for your own decisions and risk.

Key terms

Venom box
The high-to-low range from 08:00 to 09:30 New York time.
Open sweep
A move beyond one edge of the box around 09:30.
Reversal
Price returning through the box after the sweep.

Frequently asked questions

What is the ICT Venom Model?

As community sources describe it, it is a New York session setup: draw a box from 08:00 to 09:30 New York time, watch for a sweep of one side at the 09:30 open, and look for a reversal back through the box.

What time is the Venom box in IST?

During US daylight time (EDT) 08:00–09:30 New York is 17:30–19:00 IST, and the 09:30 open is 19:00 IST. In winter (EST) everything shifts one hour later in IST.

Who created the Venom Model?

I could not confirm this. I found community write-ups on TradingView and elsewhere, but no primary source from ICT, so I treat the rules as secondhand.

Which market is it used for?

The write-ups I found mostly use Nasdaq index futures (NQ), because the 09:30 US equity open is the reference.

Does the Venom Model work?

I do not know. I found no independent test, and the rules can vary between sources, so I would only trust my own written, logged version.

Sources and further reading

  1. TradingView: Understanding the ICT Venom Model (community)
  2. LuxAlgo library: Judas Swing (related open-sweep concept)

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The ICT models series

My research notes on twelve ICT models. Each guide stands alone and links to its neighbours.

  1. Overview: all 12 models
  2. 2022 Model
  3. Silver Bullet
  4. Judas Swing
  5. Power of Three
  6. Unicorn Model
  7. Turtle Soup
  8. OTE Model
  9. Market Maker Model
  10. Venom Model
  11. Breaker Model
  12. FVG Entry
  13. Order Block Entry

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