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ICT Turtle Soup Explained: Trading the Failed Breakout

Turtle Soup is older than ICT. I compare the original Street Smarts rule with the discretionary liquidity-sweep version and what I would test.

ICT Turtle Soup Explained: Trading the Failed Breakout (featured illustration)

Quick answer

Turtle Soup is a failed-breakout reversal. The original rule, from Connors and Raschke’s Street Smarts in the 1990s, fades a new 20-day high or low that fails when the previous extreme is at least four sessions old, entering on a stop order back through that level. ICT and SMC traders use the same name for a liquidity sweep of an obvious high or low followed by reversal, usually with structure confirmation. It is a hypothesis to test, not a guarantee.

Key takeaways

  • Turtle Soup comes from Street Smarts (Connors and Raschke, 1990s), not from ICT.
  • The original rule fades new 20-day extremes when the previous extreme is at least four sessions old.
  • ICT’s version tells the same story as a liquidity sweep and is discretionary.
  • Both versions are only as good as the written rules and the sample behind them.

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What is Turtle Soup?

The first thing I learned about Turtle Soup is that it is not originally an ICT idea. It was published in the mid-1990s in Street Smarts by Laurence Connors and Linda Raschke, and the name is a joke at the expense of the Turtles, the trend-following traders whose rules bought 20-day breakouts. Raschke’s observation was that many of those breakouts failed, so there might be something to trade in the reversal.

It is one of the twelve models in my ICT research notes, and probably the easiest to define on paper.

What was the original rule?

Chart of a new 20-day low breaking the old low and price closing back above it, with the buy stop and the protective stop marked
The original idea (long version) with invented prices.

For the long side, as I understand it:

  1. Price makes a new 20-day low.
  2. The previous 20-day low was set at least four sessions earlier.
  3. Enter on a stop order back above that previous low, so the trade only triggers if the breakout is already failing.
  4. Place the protective stop below the new low.

The short side mirrors this with 20-day highs. I have only seen these rules described secondhand, so if I ever test them I would go back to the book.

How did ICT and SMC traders reuse it?

In ICT vocabulary the same chart event is a liquidity sweep: price runs an obvious prior high or low, the resting orders are taken, and price fails to hold beyond the level. The reversal that follows is the trade.

Side-by-side comparison of the original Street Smarts Turtle Soup rules and the ICT liquidity sweep version
Mechanical original versus discretionary ICT version.

The big difference is that the original is a mechanical rule, while the ICT version is discretionary and usually wants a structure shift first (see market structure). That is the same sweep-then-shift skeleton as the 2022 Model.

How does it relate to other models?

  • Judas Swing: a false move at a session open; Turtle Soup is a false move at a prior high or low.
  • Silver Bullet: uses a sweep too, but limits it to three one-hour windows.
  • Market Maker models: a sweep is the “price run” stage in that cycle.

What are the weak points?

  • Trends can continue: some breakouts are real, and fading them can lose repeatedly.
  • Choice of lookback: 20 days is a convention. Changing it until the history looks good is overfitting (see types of trading strategies).
  • Old edge, new market: a 1990s rule may behave differently after decades of widespread use.
  • Costs: countertrend trades near extremes can suffer slippage.

How would I test it?

Two separate tests: the mechanical original with a fixed lookback, and the discretionary sweep version with a written checklist. I would log each qualifying event, including the ones I did not take, record the result in R, and compare the two versions on the same instrument and period. Any conclusion needs a large sample and costs included.

Reminder: I make no claim or guarantee of profit or success from anything described here. Examples are invented or illustrative and real results will differ. If you choose to trade, you are responsible for your own decisions and risk.

Key terms

Turtles
The trend-following group trained by Richard Dennis, known for buying 20-day breakouts.
Failed breakout
A move beyond a prior high or low that cannot hold.
Sweep
The ICT/SMC word for the same event.

Frequently asked questions

What is Turtle Soup in trading?

Turtle Soup is a setup that fades failed breakouts of recent extremes, named as a counterpoint to the Turtle traders who bought 20-day breakouts. It was published by Laurence Connors and Linda Raschke in Street Smarts in the 1990s.

What are the original Turtle Soup rules?

As described, for a long: price makes a new 20-day low, and the previous 20-day low is at least four sessions old. The trade enters on a buy stop back above that earlier low, so it only triggers if the breakout is already failing, with the stop below the new extreme.

What is ICT Turtle Soup?

It is the same chart event described as a liquidity sweep: price runs an obvious prior high or low, takes resting orders, then fails to hold beyond the level. Unlike the original, it is discretionary and often asks for a structure shift before entry.

Is Turtle Soup the same as a liquidity sweep?

The event is the same, the rules differ. The original is mechanical and uses a 20-day lookback; the ICT version uses any obvious level on any timeframe and judgement.

Does Turtle Soup still work?

I cannot say. Markets and participants change, and I found no independent recent study. I would test any version on my own instrument with costs included.

Sources and further reading

  1. LuxAlgo library: Turtle Soup
  2. Wikipedia: Linda Bradford Raschke
  3. Complete Trader’s Edge: Linda Raschke, Turtle Soup and the first Market Wizard

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The ICT models series

My research notes on twelve ICT models. Each guide stands alone and links to its neighbours.

  1. Overview: all 12 models
  2. 2022 Model
  3. Silver Bullet
  4. Judas Swing
  5. Power of Three
  6. Unicorn Model
  7. Turtle Soup
  8. OTE Model
  9. Market Maker Model
  10. Venom Model
  11. Breaker Model
  12. FVG Entry
  13. Order Block Entry

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